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*** We have aimed to put together a few articles which explore the topic of the 'lower realm' and aim to show examples of this 'lower realm'.

There was the first story of the Australian man in Thailand, but that now seems 'straightforward' and this man may be responsible for more murders then placing the girl in a suitcase and dumping it.

So we are going to the second story and adding the 'Thai' one on the end after the Dubai one.

This began with articles that were about the perception and reality, that 'Thai girls' (its not isolated to Thai girls) were a 'product' western men had a high chance of acquiring.

The angle was about the men who are exploited yet still think they are in control of the situation.

'There is no question that girls in Thailand, are seen as 'products'. They are easy to acquire, and they are also easy to acquire as wives. They are a product who get selected - although more correctly they target who will select them! .

The 'product' girls are in several categories. Some are actual pros, there are 'bar girls' who may or may not choose to 'entertain with extras' a customer, and there are a huge number of girls who play the 'long game'. Find a target then set out to marry said target. They are not shy, reserved, demure, or principled, although they will play that for the 'long game'. They are very well practised at what they do. They very often do not have any feelings for the man but will provide the appearance of that. For the man, he has very often knowingly chosen to acquire a Thai 'product'. Some of these men are in their 60's, clearly look that, yet they believe that a 20 year old really likes him. The girls keep actual websites detailing various men and their likely possibilities as 'husbands'. Their seemingly innocent or conversational questions on meeting, are deigned to calculate a man's wealth, background, status and so on. The question 'where are you staying' is a loaded question. '

Some men believe they are helping a girl, but in reality, the girls do know what they are doing. If she knows the man thinks like that, it is card she can play. Thailand is not a poor country and there are plenty of normal job opportunities.

Then this came up as an almost parallel story.

This is about young, western women being exploited and targeted.

Internet Comment

"Oh, this is gonna be really bad for that girl. I lived in Dubai. And the law is very strict about unmarried women going to men’s apartment . 2nd they’re going to say why didn’t they call the police to get her passport?

The laws there are so strict the only way out for her is that the British government steps in and the media keep his story in the news. UAE hates bad press."

We are keeping this story in the news.

However, it does not seem like this story is considered news.

As of July 5th there is still not much new interest in this story. There is a small amount covered by a British TV channel but the commentary almost damns this girl's story.

The commentator, a girl around the same age as Brooke, says 'girls go out to Dubai expecting to have fun'.

That is a ridiculous statement. which could condemn this girl. She went there to meet, and stay with, someone she didn't know except from online contact. No girl should be going to Dubai 'expecting to have fun' in a circumstance like that. Dubai is notorious for being extremely primitive and unprofessional in how they treat females and especially those from western countries.

As a reminder here, this girl faces death by firing squad for what happened.

No western girl should be going to Dubai 'expecting to have fun' with a man she didn't know. Just doing this is a crime in the UAE and their view of the law.

The comments we are listening to on this British TV station are utterly stupid. Apparently the footage was taken from the Jeremy Vine Show 'Daytime' with an uninformed girl giving comments. Its no good saying 'her parents are upset' and she 'expected to have fun'. The comments should be about why a 23 year old girl thought it was safe and okay to do all of what she did. Why would she even think doing something like that would be fun?

Again we'll add here that it totally looks like this man brought her out to traffick her.

That is the important part, and will the UAE police honourably investigate something that happens as routine in their country? (Trafficking of young foreign girls). That is bringing out young girls to photograph them, and finding a buyer, then trafficking them.

However, trafficking is probably difficult to prove, and the UAE would not admit to that happening, so that may explain why the team who help Briitsh people in this kind of situation in Dubai are saying 'domestic violence'.

Mostly this is a dumb, stupid, fairly typical of her age group girl, who generally all think it is okay to be what is unquestionably - especially in the eyes of a UAE Arab - a cheap, skanky slag, of the kind that so many are in these 'behaviour programmed' times. Girls may think it is other than this, or 'empowering' or whatever, but that is not how it is interpreted in the real world. .

Some commentaries are dismissive of her, and there is not much interest in her case (no-one cares about) because of what she appears to be in all her silly tik tok and other videos.

That said, this is a terrible situation and she is an example of someone who has probably survived being trafficked. This does show the kind of girls chosen to be trafficked.

How many other silly girls just like her, are lured out to places like this in Dubai - where there is a huge market for trafficked western girls? (It is a lot, trafficking thrives.)

However, how much are their own ideas of 'normal' behaviour also responsible for being in this position?

Brooke George probably survived being trafficked and ending up as a 'missing person' but instead she is charged with murder and could face a firing squad.

There is more information.

The story does indicate this was an attempt at trafficking. First she was brought out to Dubai to meet the man, but information seemed to say that photos could be taken so she could have a 'modelling career'. If taken, then those were shown to potential buyers, then she was invited back out, probably because the man doing this, had found a buyer. She did the first trip in April 2026 (while Iran was still bombing the UAE!) and that trip lasted a week. she did the second trip in June 2026.

More information is that she says she saw some disturbing video footage on his computer.

This was a man she 'met' on Facebook, he invited and paid for a roundtrip to Dubai, took her out to 'posh' places to impress her, and she considered she would like to marry this guy. He represented himself as being a rich man interested in marriage or a future together. *It can be said that any online meeting in today's world is probably not very reliable.

She returned to the UK, then he invited again, but with only a one way ticket, and he her took her passport. She surely would have known it was a one way ticket but read that as meaning he wanted her to stay. As she may have wanted this to be a 'spend her life with him' scenario, that may be why she chose to view it positively.

This seems to be a classic trafficking op. Not likely to be 'domestic violence' and if he was behaving as a person sincerely considering marriage, this would not be pre-meditated murder - she would have been up for the chance of a 'life of luxury and modelling jobs' as she was led to believe.

This kind of relationship is not really a 'boyfriend' or 'partner' - she obviously barely knew him but was okay about staying in his apartment and beginning a relationship based on what he seemed to promise her. To think doing something like this and trusting a person she didn't know, is not very bright. This is also how girls are taught to think, which makes them great targets for trafficking, or to be exploited by men.

This second visit with a one way ticket, appears to have been very different. On June 21st they went to a nice bar, in the car back to the apartment she must have raised concerns about no return ticket and wanting her passport. he did hit her at that time. They got to the apartment, she apparently phoned her mother who said Brooke had a swollen eye, she went back to the appartment to get her passport, and the guy again hit her, punched her in the face, and that is when she grabbed the knife.

Of the 5 people in the apartment, being two others, one a criminal from the UK, another person and the maid. One of these has said they filmed what happened on their phone. Brooke did get her passport, and left for the airport, and at some point had phoned her friends, maybe after phoning her mother, but her friends told her to get out of there. Very distraught after the stabbing, she went to the airport, swollen eye and blood on her dress, must have already bought a ticket, and at the airport she stoold out as something wrong, which led to the police arresting her. This was in the early hours of June 22nd.

It is a horrible situation for this girl, but she probably has led to the uncovering of a trafficking op. Everyone considers this to be a trafficking situation which went wrong. However, its the UAE police and they will not admit to any trafficking ops. They may even do it themselves.

There are not any new update videos on this which means, no-one cares about this story.

This next video is the most recent video probably from July 2nd. The additional information was that the incident may have been recorded on a mobile phone.

She also went to the airport dressed as she was, still with blood on her clothes. This does not suggest anything pre-meditated. In all circumstances but fear and panic, a person would change the clothes so rationally not draw attention to herself. This suggest a frightened girl trying to get away from a very frightening situation.

What happened to Brooke George? Advocate for woman charged with murder speaks to LBC News

Watch 6 mins. This could be helpful but if the story is that the photo shoot came up during the second visit, then it looks less in her favour.

Brooke George Trip to Dubai Ends in Murder BUT WHY

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BRIT FEMALE INFLUENCER FACES DEATH PENALTY IN DUBAI

This involved a 23 year old British shop assistant who went to Dubai for an assignation with a man she connected with online, where she then killed the man with a kitchen knife and then tried to flee the country. She was apprehended and was arrested for murder. As this is in Dubai the penalty for murder is death by firing squad.

The commemtary may be in the comparison with the circumstances with the man in Thailand, who is also being investigated for any connection with several other similar murders and bodies dumped in a suitcase, which happened during the previous times this man was in Thailand.

For this girl, she is a shop assistant who thinks she is an influencer, but also an example of the 'fake looks', use of filters and so on, which people are doing in the very unrealistic world of social media and online businesses. The second 5 min. video shows this girl.

Once this man paid for the girl to go to Dubai, that kind of means a number of additional expectations were implicit. This was her second meeting with him with the first meeting being because he wanted to take glamour photos of her as she wanted a a modelling career. That is suspicious.

Nevertheless, she is basically a 'product' he has ordered and paid for.

Whatever happened, it is this man who was murdered, not the girl.

The girl murdered the man with a kitchen knife. She claimed he had hit her. The question would be why he would hit her, as clearly the connection did not turn out successfully - (and this man had basically 'bought' her). But it turns out it is because he was holding her passport, and was angry she wanted it back.

The entire situation with this tragedy in Dubai, has led to this girl murdering the man, trying to flee Dubai, and is now arrested and faces the penalty which is death by firing squad.

This situation may come under the title 'Product Girls' - and this girl was an unknowing Product.

“The Truth Will Be TOLD!” | British Influencer Facing Death Penalty After Dubai Murder Arrest

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SHE IS FINISHED | BRIT INFLUENCER FACES DEATH PENALTY IN DUBAI

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British Influencer Brooke George Charged With Murder in Dubai | Full Case Explained

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TikTok British Influencer Accused of Murder In Dubai Facing Death Penalty

Watch 9 mins. This is a terrible tragedy and a nightmare situation to be in.

At the same time this is a typical 23 year old basically a skank who has run up against reality. Girls are now taught by society to behave as she did, and they all think it is normal and safe to do. This is what says a lot about the society the world now has.

The reality is that behaving as she did is not safe. There are bad people out there in the world.

In this sense, they are almost all, across the board 'naive'. yet what makes them think doing what she did is 'safe' to do? This was a second visit, but it was also to someone she didn't know until she arrived in Dubai the first time. It takes time to get to know someone and form a real relationship. Or was this always never intended as a 'real relationship' because that is also something assumed to be safe. Clearly it wasn't.

The story seems to be that she had genuine concerns about the situation in that there was no return air ticket. This does sound suspicious, as does the presence of others in the apartment, and especially the other man.

This sounds like an attempted kidnapping and trafficking case.

The first visit was okay and she safely returned back to the UK. The second visit, who knows. maybe she was on her way into someone's harem? The photos were taken on the first trip, shown to a potential buyer, and that is why she was invited back to Dubai.

So, she booked her return flight, apparently outside somewhere. She returned to the apartment to get her passport. The guy challenged her, then hit her.

If the police investigate into the murdered man's background, it may be that he has done this before, brought over some silly girl who is trying to be a 'model', then she has disappeared.

Investigations have found that the murdered man had been arrested and imprisoned for assault and battery before when he was in the UK. But he was also supposed to have a trial in the UK in 2027 involving supplying things like the 'happy white powder'. So this was not a particularly good guy. .

Internet Comments. From a different video on this case.

"Failed human trafficking scheme!"

"No joke, once he mentioned "modeling" I figured he was a pimp. The girl wasn't smart but certainly does not deserve this bullshit."

"First 5 minutes of this (other) video sounds like a course in trafficking 101."

"I believe 100% she was going to be trafficked. So many RED FLAGS here, a one-way ticket to Dubai, the "model" photo shoot, him leaving her all day with other people (like guards/handlers?!), him having control of her passport, etc. I don't want to victim-blame but why did she give him her passport? And Dubai is very known for young women "disappearing" and certain "parties" where they are found injured/dead afterwards. Oh, and that they put rape victims in prison for "immorality"."

"That was 1000% a sex trafficking / being sold to a sheikh scenario. Guy was probably working for one of the sheikhs. Goal was to honeytrap her. She goes to Dubai, it's a "time of her life" type of trip, paid for by the sponsor. Next time she comes, the trap is sprung and he's then supposed to just wear her down so she's ready to be given to the big money guy. She broke the plan by killing the guy. They're keeping things very quiet precisely because there's more to it than meets the eye."

More recent.

To Add to the Degradation, what are Dubai Potty Parties?

'Held aboard a luxury yacht as well as inside hotel rooms, Porta Potty parties are allegedly orchestrated by wealthy men, and centre around acts of degrading sexual humiliation, often involving bodily fluids. Those targeted are left with physical and psychological scars.

Adult content creator Kay Manuel, from Australia's Gold Coast, previously told news.com.au: “The promoters play it down. Saying, you’ll just party, have a great time. Then get showered with gifts. In reality, you’ll be expected to do unthinkable things.”'

"Those who attend are left 'emotionally scarred".

Question asked if the British girl in jail in Dubai for murder, was being recruited for one of these parties?

TikTok content creator Stabbed & K!LLED Her Boyfriend After He Did This To Her | Brooke George

Watch 23 mins. It would be helpful to have the information when she did her first trip to Dubai and how long after that she did the second trip. The stabbing took place on June 21st 2026 and she was arrested at the airport in the early hours of the morning on the 22nd. Still there are not many views for the videos on this story. The first video says the victim first contacted her in 2024. Later information says she did the first trip to Dubai in April 2026, and the June trip was the second visit.

Watch 13 mins. Offered a life of luxury and modelling in Dubai. How realistic would that be?

Most recent.

British Influencer May be Executed In Dubai For Sending Boyfriend To The Shadow Realm

Watch 25 mins. This is more about deviants and 'potty parties' and some of the even more disgusting stuff that is still being learned about.

This story, above, is not overly too far removed from the situation I witnessed while being in Mexico, where young girls go there as volunteers.

This was exploitation of young women.

Not the same thing, but very bad too. The girls are the same kind of age group, or even as young as 18, but the deal for volunteering included either being seduced by the owner as if it was a genuine attraction, and he said this out in public in a very obscene talk with other guests, loudly bragging about it.

A 3rd in public, very obscene talk, showed that such a relationship with him was propositioned as part of the job description, and also that he gave out drugs, like mushrooms, and then who knows what happened. There is a review on the place from 2016 warning that this kind of thing was happening.

There is no suggestion of any kind of violence, not at all, but there are very questionable things such as touching volunteers inappropriately and also that he would go into the girls' bathroom when he knew a girl was in there.

Australian accused of killing a Thai teenager claims self-defence | 7NE

Watch 3 mins. Hard to watch this man almost unmoved by what he did. Equally hard to believe he 'abducted' her when they clearly walk into the building together, holding hands, and also the description of a 'minor' is still nevetheless a 17 year old prostitute in the pro capital Pattaya, who wanted $20 AUD for her services, and he apparently didn't want to pay that. The man is Simon Peter Carman, aged 46 from Perth, Australia. For the girl, in Thailand this is a common career path although there is no need to choose this.

The girl appears comfortable walking with this man, and therefore okay with the work she has chosen, but Thailand has as many opportunities for employment as would be expected. However, that is not to justify that anyone has the right to murder a girl, for any reason whatsoever. That is more about some of the charges being unrealistic. He was not 'abducting' her. The self-defence question is hard to believe, and why does this man 'need to argue' over paying $20 AUD?

But there is also a big question WHY the police were even aware of this crime? What is there to giveaway that a murder took place? This man walks into his apartment with a girl, and they are holding hands. There is nothing unusual. About 18 hours later, he takes a suitcase out, but why would anyone be tracking where he is going with that?

There is More to This Story.

There is more now, and it turns out her friends were concerned when she was missing for nearly 24 hours, and their concern led to the police action which happened before Carman had even bought his airline ticket. This was the reason why the CCTV footage was viewed and Carman was seen carrying out a suitcase. He waited for around 18 hours after the murder before deciding what to do. The friends reported the girls missing shortly after that time.

It now turns out that they had agreed on a price of about $27 USD but soon after entering the apartment, the girl received a phone call. Straight after that she refused to do anything, and wanted to leave, and Carmen agreed to pay her $20 AUD because she didn't do what she was there for. Then there was the argument which led to her death.

No doubt information was relayed to the girl about Carman, which is why she refused. As mentioned further down, these workers do keep records and photos of people. The question is, did she renege on the agreement and then argued about payment for her not doing what she had gone there for? She apparently grabbed a knife - was that related to the information in the phone call or because he was paying her less?

When her body was found the injuries to her face were consistent with far more than being choked. This looks like a case that will lead to the death penalty.

Australian 'lived normal life' before allegedly dumping Thai teen's body | ABC NEWS

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Australian Tourist Tried to Flee Thailand After Teen Girl’s Body Was Found in a Suitcase

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